Morning Glory / Vrtni Slak

[blackbringer]

Prekrasna biljka cije sjemenje sadrzi aktivnu supstancu LSA. Trip je iznimno slican tripu pod LSD-om.

Tko je sve probao i kako vam se cini ?

[psihonaut19]

Jel mi netko može reæi gdje se to može kupit?Jel se to i kod nas zove mornyng glory?? Koja je cvijena?? i najvažnije koliko da ih pojedem za jedan slabi trip? i koliko za normalan?

[blackbringer]

U vecini trgovina biljnim svijetom (dakle - cvjecarnama i slicno).

Ipomoea violacea je latinski naziv, srpski ne znam.
No, to je veoma poznata biljka i strasno puno ljudi ih ima u vrtovima ili u kucama, posto su vema lijepe ukrasne biljke.

Cijena ?
Ja sam u trgovini kupio 1350 netretiranih sjemenki za 50 kuna :D

Za najblazi trip je dosta oko 100 sjemenki, no za "normalan" trip se proporuca 250-300 sjemenki. Sve ovisi o metabolizmu osobe.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning...ng_glory.shtml

[Orwell]

Samo jedno pitanje: sjemenke se moraju sazvakati ili samo progutati ::tojlet

[blackbringer]

Ako se sazvacu (i to jako dobro), ucinak ce biti aci i brze ce poceti djelovati.

Osim zvakanja (sjemenke su obicno prilicno tvrde), mozete ih samljeti pa popiti s vodom, ili pojesti sa sladoledom (prah posipate po sladoledu).

Da bi olaksali zvakanje sjemenki, mozete sjemenke ostaviti u vodi sat-dva da omeksaju.

EDIT (dodano):
Inace, 50kuna je oko 6,5 eura ;)

[trovac]

zar ova biljka nije smrtna???
a ja sam takodje cuo o nekim drugim ciframa sto se tice kolicine
tako da sam sad zbunjen ~~ 0019

[psihonaut19]

Gle ima ti koliko ja znam tri razne vrste sjemenki koje ti se prodaju pod imenom morning glory zato treba vodit strogo raèuna. neznam kako se zovu al jedna od njih je dovoljno uzet oo- sjemenki za trip. Poznat je jedan sluèaj di je jedan tip pojeo takvih i poludio totalno. ::balonja

[trovac]

pa onda kako da znam koje treba da uzmem
mislis da idem ono kao eci peci pec pa da kupim te na koje ispadne.
ti si postavio ovo tako da bi bilo lepo kad bi znao i da kazes koje treba uzimati.
a moze i ovako nadjemo se ti pojedes prvi i ako je sve super uzmem i ja a ako se nesto desi vodim te u urgentni ::behehe

[psihonaut19]

Gle ovako ako su sjemenke IPOMEA VIOLACEA onda uzmi normalno od 100 do max 200sjemenki. A ako su od tkz. havajske ruže ARGYREIA NERVOSA onda je dovoljno 4-8 sjemenki. A ako su pak od RIVEA CORYMBOSA onda uzmi isto od 100 do 300 sjemenki.

[iz0t0p]

Sledeci text je preuzet sa erowida naravno, i njega sam davno procitao. Kad sam video slike cvet me je jako podsetio na jedno cvece koje raste i kod nas, tj na ladolez (ja sam u textu dopisao ladolez kod navoda). posto inace studiram na poljoprivrednom faxu to me je jako zaintrigiralo, pa sam sproveo malo istrazivanje... sve u svemu, bio sam u pravu, morning glory JESTE ladolez, cvece koje inace raste kod nas... to nije sve! to cvece inace moze da se kupi u svakoj poljoprivrenoj apoteci, znam posto moj cale drzi jednu u mladenovcu, i cena je oko 15-20din!!! u kesici ima oko 30 semenki. sad fora je u tome sto se prodaje mix ladoleza tj sve biljke iz porodice ali ne iste vrste, inace jako su slicne osim u boji cveta. ljubicasti ladolez ima najvise LSA u sebi dok ostali imaju ali ne u toj kolicini a imaju i razne druge alkalode. najbolje bi bilo kad bi posejali seme a zatim samo iz ljubicastog cveta pokupili semenke, mada mozda je jednostavnije posto se semenke razlikuju, na erowidu pogledajte izgled semenke a zatim izdvojte istog izgleda i njih koristite (uglavnom u kesici ima oko 5-6 takvih); efekti su extra ko zeli nek proba

za sva pitanja mozete da mi se obratite preko PMa

Lizgerinska kiselina rula

doza! za morning glory doza je 50-400 semenki za hwb doza je 3-40 semenki... uzgajite pa ce te da vidite sta je... ::histerija

Morning Glory

BOTANICAL CLASSIFICATION
Family :Convolvulaceae
Genus :Ipomoea
Species :violacea

COMMON NAMES
Morning Glory; Heavenly Blue Morning Glory; Tlilitzin; Ladolez; Badoh Negro (seeds)

EFFECTS CLASSIFICATION
Psychedelic

DESCRIPTION
Ipomoea violacea is a common ornamental vine with heart-shaped leaves and bright white, pink, or purple flowers and small, black seeds that contain LSA. Because of its fast growth and prodigious seed production, many jurisdictions consider it an invasive weed plant. It has a long history of use in Central to Southern Mexico.

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Morning Glory Seed Basics
by Erowid

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DESCRIPTION
The seeds of several varieties of Morning Glory (Ipomoea violacea) contain a naturally occurring tryptamine called Lysergic Acid Amide (LSA), which is closely related to LSD. Seeds are taken orally, and can be eaten whole or the active alkaloids can be extracted.

The most common active varieties of seeds are Heavenly Blue, Pearly Gates, and Flying Saucers. Like LSD, LSA acts as a "psychedelic" or "hallucinogen" which can have strong mental effects.
[ Main Morning Glory Vault ]



Dose
Threshold effects of LSA can be reached with as few as 25-50 seeds, though most recreational users find it necessary to ingest between 100 and 400 seeds to reach desired effects.

Law
Although LSA is a schedule III substance in the United States, Morning Glory seeds and plants are sold at just about every nursery, garden store, or botanical supply store that you can find. In practice, little hassle is ever given to those who buy and ingest seeds, but extracting the active ingredient puts you in possession of a relatively pure chemical which is illegal to possess.

Chemistry
The seeds of Ipomoea violacea contain about 0.1% ergot alkaloids, including ergotmetrine, chanoclavine and lysergol.

History
Morning Glory seeds called tlitlitzin were used ritually by the Aztec for their psychoactive properties. Spanish chroniclers in the mid 16th century reported on the divinitory use of these seeds. Their use has continued in southern Mexico, although it wasn't until about 1900 that tlitlitzin was identified botanically as Morning Glory.

Slang
The Substance : Tlitlitzin (Aztec)


EFFECTS

Onset
Because use is oral, onset is affected by the last food that was ingested. On a relatively empty stomach, onset of effects is about an hour after ingestion, although it can be many hours before peak effects are reached.

Duration
Primary effects last 6-10 hours when seeds are taken orally.

Contraindications

Do not operate heavy machinery. Do Not Drive.


Do not ingest Morning Glory seeds if you are currently taking an MAOI. MAOIs are most commonly found in the prescription anti-depressants Nardil (phenelzine), Parnate (tranylcypromine), Marplan (isocarboxazid), Eldepryl (l-deprenyl), and Aurorex or Manerix (moclobemide). Ayahuasca also contains MAOIs (harmine and harmaline). Morning Glory Seeds (LSA) and MAOIs are a potentially dangerous combination. Check with your doctor if you are not sure whether your prescription medication is an MAOI.


Do not use Morning Glory seeds when pregnant. LSA is closely related to LSD which is a uterine contractor that can increase risk of miscarriage during pregnancy.


Individuals currently in the midst of emotional or psychological upheaval in their everyday lives should be careful about choosing to use psychedelics such as Morning Glory seeds as they can trigger even more difficulty.


Individuals with a family history of schizophrenia or early onset mental illness should be extremely careful as psychedelics have been known to trigger latent psychological and mental problems.

[psihonaut19]

Majke mi nema se šta više reæi o tome.Svaka èast i hvala majstore

[iz0t0p]

inace interesantno je da je albert hofmann prvi izolovao LSA-11 iz morning glory, a kod je trebao da kolegama pokaze da je to lsa nisu mu verovali jer je ispitivanja radio u svojoj lab. a ona je bila puna lsa i njenih derivata (lsd naprimer)
inace on je jedan od prvih belih ljudi koji je radio morning glory :D
vise o tome u knjizi: Albert Hofmann - LSD-my problem child

[psihonaut19]

Odlièna knjiga.svaka èast liku

[iz0t0p]

ko hoce da cita tu knigu:
www.maps.org/books/mpc

trebalo bi da je books mozda bookz... mrzi me da gledam..

[marva]

books je... inace koga mrzi da chita online, ima i zip verzija za offline chitanje na:
http://195.162.198.202/cm/trash/LSD.zip

[iz0t0p]

tnx za link, ja sam spasavao stranu po stranu...

[marva]

all you should do is ask ;) ovo sam skinuo (webstripper se zove program) za svega par minuta za offline chitanje...

[iz0t0p]

i ti si skidao s mapsa? i nije neka razlika... poso sam i ja za oko minut skinuo knjigu ali sam usput i pregledao sta pise...

[marva]

a maps jeeeeeee? :)

[psihonaut19]

Ej ljudi jel je moguæe (tj jel bi imalo smisla) pušit listove ladoleza tj morning glory???