Morning Glory / Vrtni Slak

[Ramona_Red]

Evo dosad si već ko zna di - sretan let želi vam vaš LSAirlines!

[elephant0r]

Uzivaj roxorz.. cekamo captains log star date 747369 ^^

[DirtyDeeds]

Originally Posted by Hasan bin Sabah

Ergin (LSA) nije ilegalna supstanca, LSD je "višestruko" ilegalan.

Ma nije tako i LSA je ilegalan... Zato ga i ne možeš nigdje nabavit u cistom obliku. Cim vršiš ekstrakciju i dobivaš koncentrat LSA predpostavlja se da ti je to za pravit LSD, nema veze što nema šanse da uspiješ u tome. Zakon ima vrlo malo nejasno definiranih stvari zbog kojih bi te možda mogli pustiti ali zato kolko god hoces zbog cega bi te mogli zatvorit tako je i svaka tvar namjenjena za proizvodnju neke droge ilegalna....ista stvar je npr. s efedrinom....

[ROX]

LSD bi se mogao ali se inace ne radi od LSA, bar kolko ja znam, vec od drugih stvari. LSA je ilegalan u SAD-u (iako nitko nikad nije najebao zbog toga), ovdje nije.

Inace, jucer je bilo......neznam...prrano je jos :)

[Anarhoster]

Meni baš i nije bilo najbolje. Uzeo oko 150 i nakon 20 min povratio sve van. Najvjerojatnije da su bile tretirane.

[ROX]

Originally Posted by elephant0r

Uzivaj roxorz.. cekamo captains log star date 747369 ^^

Captain je lijen son of a bitch pa ce kopi pejstat sa drugog foruma u nadi da znas engleski :)

Originally Posted by Comike14,May 1 2008, 10:25 AM

I expect a full report when you wake up. :gandalf:

You wanted a trip report so I might as well do it here and not over PM since it serves the purpose of this thread.

So ok. Enough time has passed for me to conclude that this was:

1. The most intense trip I've had, ever, even more than shrooms.
2. The first LSA trip I had with practically no "miserable body load stage" at the beginning of the trip.
3. Not as enlightening as some of the previous ones.

I don't know why, but my previous 300 seed trip (that was 13 months ago) was much more of a teacher than this one (even though half of it being a bad trip). Even some smaller than 300 seed doses were more enlightening and revealing. Not to say this one was a misfire, no, it was just not what I expected. But hell, expecting is a no-no with psychedelic experiences anyway.

The words that would describe the experience best are "weird" and "mindfuck". The first trip after which I actually had trouble remembering what I experienced because it was too overwhelming, recollecting what happened the other day was like recollecting a dream. It was also the first LSA trip I had where I have openly experienced open eye visuals (OEV) in the form of the walls and furniture of my room being carved with patterns, and in the form that colors were noticeably brighter and more beautiful. I noticed this especially when I turned on the light in my room and everything was SO yellow when illuminated by it, and when I turned everything off except a black light neon lamp and a normal purple/pink neon lamp, and the two different colors/forms of light blended into visual ecstasy, not to mention half my room glowing because of the black light, including my shirt. Everything was light, and I was part of it since I was glowing too, and that was just beautiful.
I have seen patterns on clear surfaces on my previous 300 seed trip but very vague, this time it was clear.

I guess this trip was stronger because:
-I put the seeds into capsules and swallowed them all within 10 minutes, whereas for my previous trip I ate the seed powder with a spoon and had epic battles with the horrid taste that lasted for some time.
-I managed to get a hold of some weed for the initial nausea after ingestion. Actually it was skunk, and actually it hit me like a sledge hammer when I wasn't looking. That's also the reason I had almost no nausea and other negative physical effects after ingestion that are typical for LSA (apart from burping and farting throughout the whole night).

Nastvlja se...

[ROX]

I ate the seeds, I smoked the skunk :gandalf: . Then it was all good for a while. Then the skunk high crept up on me and I was like WOOOOOOOOOOW DUUUUUUUUUUUDE YOU TRICKED ME! When writing a post here I suddenly felt something similar to Salvia - reality was only what I could see with my eyes - that which was in front of me. As for the rest which I couldn't see, behind me, it was open space and it was kinda.....sucking me in and dissolving me. Ok, breaking from writing the post to draw what I mean:

OMG UES ART THREADZ!


That's how I felt. Mind you, I didn't see that, just felt it intensely.

The thin line around the table and me was my perceived reality, everything out of that felt like outer space as far as I was concerned, literally. This was like, only an hour after ingestion. By two hours I was already peaking, compared to 3-4 hours till peak on most other LSA experiences. During and after the picture up there, the back of my head started melting which was VERY real. It tickled a lot and made me laugh like an idiot. At one point I actually inspected it with my hand to be sure that part of my head won't be missing tomorrow. Soon I felt the "sudden tiredness" and intense need to lie down. Not meeting this need on my previous 300 seed trip almost resulted in me fainting in a crowded tram. Remember kids, when doing LSA, have somewhere to lie down. This tiredness was more pronounced on this trip than previous ones.

I read before that weed helps the LSA trip "lift off", and now for the first time saw it for myself. When the skunk subsided the LSA just carried on at the same intensity, thus I didn't even notice the LSA effects getting higher towards the peak. When the skunk wore off, the LSA was already peaking.

I guess this trip was more weirdness and fun oriented than insightful because most of it was in my room. I blame the computer, it was just too interesting to get away from. I read wikipedia for hours, including advanced physics stuff I don't know shit about and boring stuff I would never read sober. I found myself staring at THIS picture for a good 20 minutes. First it was a bunch of circles moving and bouncing off each other. Then I noticed the red circles and it was like, "Wow, cute little Japans going around, haha, so silly"......um, yeah....after that phase, I saw the picture in 3D. It wasn't just 2D stuff going left right up and down, it were now 3D round objects rotating around a common gravity center. It was an atomic dance.

That's one more reason I think I didn't have some great insights - I was fighting it in stead of letting go, I was fighting it because I wanted to read wiki and other stuff that were just insanely interesting, but I had very much trouble with reading it because my attention span was like, 4 seconds, and I would re-read bigger sentences a lot because by the time I got to the end I wouldn't remember what the beginning was about. I wanted to stay focused at what I was doing in stead of letting my mind float away. Paradoxical and kinda stupid, I was tripping but wanted to focus on my reality.

I took some pictures with my camera, nothing special (actually most of them suck and are ordinary, but I'll post them anyway :P ):

Room
Posters
Eye
Nail :D
You may have already seen this
Remote
Bed illuminated by black light
Door handle
PC
Same
My hand - I like this one, especially since I have one artistic similar to it, and they would go well together. ("Searching")


Later I called a friend and we went for a walk, even though I had fears of "sudden needing to lie down" in the middle of the street.

I saw everything. Looking down the street, I.could.see.everything.
Since I go to a journalism college, I recently read about camera objectives from a book from TV class. And the large field of vision objectives that can film things both close and far at the same time without one of those being blurry. Well, that was it. It was the first thing that came to my mind. I never focused my vision on something like we usually do when we want to see it more clearly. Everything was clear, and my horizontal field of vision felt like it was way more than 180 degrees. Like a cinema screen.

After a circle 'round the block I got back home for some more mindfuck. Most of the stuff after this point is blurry. I bathed in the light of my room some more. I played X3 and that was like, orgasm. A planet, a moon, a sun, a red nebula and many asteroids. Oh man. The asteroids were moving. I know that they don't move in the game, but they were anyway. Time was crazy as usual. I would think an hour has passed, then look at the clock to see that only 15 minutes passed. Food also sucked as usual. I would think how I can't wait to eat this chocolate, then was disappointed that it has very little taste and thought I'd leave it for tomorrow when I can enjoy it more :D

I did have some revelations, though they were more "along the way" than "in your face" like previously. The revelations were mostly about my view of myself and are something I'd like to also keep for myself :)

I got very tired and even fed up by 6 hours after ingestion and went to sleep. FAIL. I could fall asleep on LSA before, but not now. Now here's something I found rather unpleasant and frustrating:
I go to sleep. Suddenly half my body is missing, I can't feel my legs. I "wake up", regain the feel of my legs, have an INSANE field of view for a few seconds (like looking through binoculars from the wrong end), then notice that my legs are so cold that they might even be dead. I guess from the screwed up circulation, LSA does that. Then I try to go to sleep again and the cycle repeats itself. I never thought I could say this, but after this continued on I was like "oh come on LSA, FUCKING END ALREADY". I also had some difficulty with urinating and taking a shit. Taking a shit was fail actually, but I could urinate although it took longer to start. Whether it's from the screwed circulation and inability to feel and control the muscles responsible for those actions, I don't know.

All in all it was a good trip. Strong and exotic, a little less insightful than I would have hoped for, but I don't regret my trips how ever they turn out.

I had a good sleep and woke up some 8-9 hours later, sober, though my pupils were still slightly dilated, but that went away within an hour. I was kinda tired, my legs felt a bit sore from the circulation crap, but the afterglow was there, and again, the moment I walked out of my building in the morning, breathed the fresh air, looked at the trees, the fluffy clouds, felt the wind and sun on my skin, just being alive felt like a luxury I was almost unworthy of. It was priceless.

[elephant0r]

Rox svaka cast.. ovo je najbolje napisan trip report koji sam citao..

Btw.. ovaj zadnji dio kad izlazis iz zgrade me podsjetio na Ruiza..
http://forums.vutra.org/putovanje-na...html#post62369

[Weedran]

hehehe rox, welcome back ;) nice trip report

[Šaman Šandor]

DObar trip report, čini se da ja jako zanimljivo bilo
Jedino mi se nesviđa ona ideja da je život luksuz kojega nisi vrijedan - nemoj se podcjenjivati

[Yami_Raziel]

Just another trip down the rabbit hole :)

sad bi i jaaaa...a neam para :(((
mrzim citat trip reportove...uvjek ti dodje da i ti opet ponovis...

ali sve u svemu niceeee :)

[ROX]

Originally Posted by Šaman Šandor

Jedino mi se nesviđa ona ideja da je život luksuz kojega nisi vrijedan - nemoj se podcjenjivati

To je samo bio dojam u trenutku :)

[Wolfshade01]

Ovo čudo raste ko ludo! U 3 dana je izraslo 10-ak cm! Morati ću ga maknit iz sobe jer me strah da će me pojesti dok spavam!

[Ramona_Red]

Ae, uf - slačina - pa to raste ko čarobni grah ... aa iz sobe ga svejedno moraš maknut, ne voli ti slak bit u zatvorenom - što više zemlje i sunca .. i penjalicu mu moraš razapet ;)

[Anarhoster]

6 slakiča raste. Bit će predivno kad zaplave.

[inner_peace]

ey ekipa..di ih uspijete nac u zagrebu..evo prije par dana sam prosao desetak konzuma i malih i velih i cak onaj konzum plus il kako vec i plavih nea nigdje..jel znate mozda jos negdje di se u zagrebu mogu kupit ? hvala

[-hate camel-]

@ROX hehe zanimljivo iskustvo
journalism college kazes, znaci da smo skoro pa kolege

[SupaRasta]

evo ja i prika posadili vrecicu slaka, za čudo nasli smo 13 paketa u konzumu i to nekom jadnom hehehe....

[Wolfshade01]

Originally Posted by inner_peace

ey ekipa..di ih uspijete nac u zagrebu..evo prije par dana sam prosao desetak konzuma i malih i velih i cak onaj konzum plus il kako vec i plavih nea nigdje..jel znate mozda jos negdje di se u zagrebu mogu kupit ? hvala

Ja kad sam bija u zagrebu pred jedno misec dana sam ih naša u konzumu na laščini. Pun k. ih je bilo.

[ROX]

I "mom" konzumu jos uvijek ima, vec mjesecima :D