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Old 05-28-2007, 01:12   #21
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COLEUS (Coleus pumas and C. blumei) is cultivated by the Mazatecs of Oaxaca, Mexico, who reputedly employ the leaves in the some way as they use the leaves of Salvia divinorum. Indeed, the Indians recognize the family relationship between these two genera of mints, both of the family Labiatae. They refer to S. divinorum as la hembra ("the female") and to C. pumilus as el macho ("the male"). There are two forms of C. blumei, which they call el niño ("the child") and el ahijado ("the godson").
These two species are native to Asia, where they are valued in folk medicine but apparently have not been used as hallucinogens. No hallucinogenic principle hes yet been discovered in the 150 known Coleus species.
Note: Leander Valdez III has stated informally that the Coleus spp. is inactive and any percieved effects are the result of a placebo effect. He has tested the leaves for the presence of potentially psychoactive diterpenes and found nothing. Speaking of the Mazatec curandero Don Alejandro in his 1983 paper from the Journal of Ethnopharmacology entitled "Ethnopharmacology of Ska María Pastora", Valdez says "The curandero also had several horticultural specimens of Coleus spp. growing near his house. Wasson has noted that the Mazatecs believe Coleus to be a medicinal or hallucinogenic herb related to S. divinorum (Wasson, 1962). However, Don Alejandro said the plants were not medicinal and his daughter had bought them at the market because they were pretty."
Annecdotal accounts from the internet state that infusions of 50 to 70 fresh leaves have produced mixed results.

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Old 05-29-2007, 18:29   #22
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No hallucinogenic principle hes yet been discovered in the 150 known Coleus species
Hehehe, tako je. Zato ga i nisan tija provavat. Meni je Coleus drag jer mi je jepi, ilipo raste a bome i izgleda. A i lipo mi figura kraj Sally; nakraju krajeva, u rodu su
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heh...koliko sam ja chuo...ona se vise ne prodaje u cvjecharnama i trgovinama s biljkama...ili nesto slicno...ja sam nabavio kod jednog prijatelja...a on..od svoje bake tako da...mozda da probate na placu (trznici) heheh, a sto se tiche halucinogenih pojava..to neznam...ali bas zato je i uzgajam...pozzz
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